1 00:00:03,300 --> 00:00:07,570 [Music] 2 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:11,660 and although I am a biologist and I'm in 3 00:00:16,180 --> 00:00:14,130 a biology session here I'm gonna mostly 4 00:00:19,130 --> 00:00:16,190 talk about the physics of the 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:19,140 electromagnetic fields generated not 6 00:00:25,070 --> 00:00:23,130 from the body but from a caduceus coil 7 00:00:27,859 --> 00:00:25,080 which is another experimental way to 8 00:00:30,169 --> 00:00:27,869 generate what I call non classical 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:30,179 electromagnetic fields because I believe 10 00:00:33,860 --> 00:00:32,250 that bioenergy which we've been talking 11 00:00:35,810 --> 00:00:33,870 about although there is an 12 00:00:38,510 --> 00:00:35,820 electromagnetic component the more 13 00:00:41,930 --> 00:00:38,520 exciting and interesting and anomalous 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:41,940 effects are the non classical nature of 15 00:00:50,299 --> 00:00:43,770 the energy that's emitted by these 16 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:50,309 fields do I need this or not okay so I 17 00:00:54,709 --> 00:00:53,129 want to start with the the in the title 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:54,719 there's a lot of concepts in there so I 19 00:01:01,729 --> 00:00:57,210 want to start with the concept of what a 20 00:01:03,619 --> 00:01:01,739 longitudinal field is and in order to 21 00:01:06,140 --> 00:01:03,629 describe what a longitudinal 22 00:01:09,710 --> 00:01:06,150 electromagnetic field is which is a non 23 00:01:12,679 --> 00:01:09,720 classical form of the electromagnetic 24 00:01:18,770 --> 00:01:12,689 field I have to start with the classical 25 00:01:21,850 --> 00:01:18,780 electromagnetic fields that don't move 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:21,860 or they do move but they propagate 27 00:01:32,030 --> 00:01:30,329 differently then this button does all I 28 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:32,040 have to oh I'm sorry 29 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:34,110 got you okay so here's the classic 30 00:01:40,039 --> 00:01:37,729 electromagnetic field which for those 31 00:01:42,109 --> 00:01:40,049 60% of the audience who are not 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:42,119 physicists which I just learned in this 33 00:01:47,060 --> 00:01:45,329 conference looks like this it may not 34 00:01:48,859 --> 00:01:47,070 look like an ordinary electromagnetic 35 00:01:52,550 --> 00:01:48,869 field but you can see the electric and 36 00:01:55,389 --> 00:01:52,560 magnetic components which oscillate in a 37 00:01:58,819 --> 00:01:55,399 transverse or perpendicular direction to 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:01:58,829 the direction of propagation of the 39 00:02:05,539 --> 00:02:00,930 field itself and that's why they're 40 00:02:08,930 --> 00:02:05,549 called transverse Hertzian force fields 41 00:02:11,780 --> 00:02:08,940 this is the classical definition of an 42 00:02:16,369 --> 00:02:11,790 electromagnetic field 43 00:02:17,809 --> 00:02:16,379 and what I want to talk about is is a 44 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:17,819 different kind of field that doesn't 45 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:20,329 have a transverse oscillation but a 46 00:02:27,259 --> 00:02:24,480 longitudinal oscillation so here's the 47 00:02:29,119 --> 00:02:27,269 physics part I will get to the biology 48 00:02:31,819 --> 00:02:29,129 promise we're in a biology session right 49 00:02:37,309 --> 00:02:31,829 so there is some biology in here so 50 00:02:39,199 --> 00:02:37,319 Maxwell's equations are complex and I'm 51 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:39,209 not really qualified to talk much about 52 00:02:46,429 --> 00:02:43,760 them but I will anyway so they are 53 00:02:50,929 --> 00:02:46,439 described mathematically by these 54 00:02:53,929 --> 00:02:50,939 mathematical entities called E B and H 55 00:03:01,750 --> 00:02:53,939 which are mathematical entity vector 56 00:03:08,330 --> 00:03:04,550 mathematical constructs which are called 57 00:03:11,089 --> 00:03:08,340 potentials which underlie the vectors 58 00:03:13,429 --> 00:03:11,099 and in fact an electromagnetic force 59 00:03:16,369 --> 00:03:13,439 field can be described in terms of its 60 00:03:19,399 --> 00:03:16,379 potential components as well as its 61 00:03:22,399 --> 00:03:19,409 vector components and the a stands for 62 00:03:26,030 --> 00:03:22,409 the magnetic vector potential and fee is 63 00:03:28,189 --> 00:03:26,040 the scalar electrostatic potential I 64 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:28,199 will mention that later because that's 65 00:03:33,619 --> 00:03:30,000 an important concept but anyway 66 00:03:36,649 --> 00:03:33,629 traditionally the solving of Maxwell's 67 00:03:39,439 --> 00:03:36,659 equations are done within a certain set 68 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:39,449 of confines it's as only a certain kind 69 00:03:43,550 --> 00:03:41,760 of algebra that's used there's only 70 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:43,560 certain kind of operators or 71 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:47,810 mathematical constructs that are allowed 72 00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:50,370 there are certain boundary conditions 73 00:03:54,170 --> 00:03:52,560 that are used and there are certain 74 00:03:58,039 --> 00:03:54,180 coordinates within those boundary 75 00:04:03,069 --> 00:03:58,049 conditions so in a sense the Maxwell's 76 00:04:06,289 --> 00:04:03,079 equations are limited by these 77 00:04:09,499 --> 00:04:06,299 conditions and when you solve the 78 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:09,509 standard Maxwell Maxwell equation says 79 00:04:15,890 --> 00:04:11,370 lots of different forms when you solve 80 00:04:18,620 --> 00:04:15,900 the the classical form of the electro 81 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:18,630 met the Maxwell's equations you look for 82 00:04:23,180 --> 00:04:21,570 wave-like solutions in fact there are so 83 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:23,190 many different solutions you can get 84 00:04:27,250 --> 00:04:25,529 when you solve these equations but what 85 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:27,260 we're interested in is wave-like 86 00:04:32,690 --> 00:04:30,570 solutions which describe the behavior of 87 00:04:36,379 --> 00:04:32,700 the classical electromagnetic fields now 88 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:36,389 the behavior is the properties of the 89 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:41,250 fields or the the propagation of the 90 00:04:46,940 --> 00:04:43,770 field and physicist and be obsessed with 91 00:04:50,810 --> 00:04:46,950 how these fields propagate and the speed 92 00:04:53,180 --> 00:04:50,820 that they propagate for example the 93 00:04:57,469 --> 00:04:53,190 behavior also has to do with the way 94 00:05:01,870 --> 00:04:57,479 that the fields interact with particles 95 00:05:04,219 --> 00:05:01,880 and the way that the these mathematical 96 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:04,229 components interact with each other how 97 00:05:09,110 --> 00:05:06,570 the electric and magnetic components 98 00:05:11,779 --> 00:05:09,120 interact with each other and how the 99 00:05:15,290 --> 00:05:11,789 fields are transformed mathematicians 100 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:15,300 love to take these equations and then 101 00:05:20,810 --> 00:05:18,690 transform them like put the put the 102 00:05:24,110 --> 00:05:20,820 equations in another set of coordinates 103 00:05:28,700 --> 00:05:24,120 and then what happens to the field so 104 00:05:31,219 --> 00:05:28,710 conceptually that's the kind of things 105 00:05:36,740 --> 00:05:31,229 that mathematicians do in classical 106 00:05:38,750 --> 00:05:36,750 field theory and what I'm now going to 107 00:05:41,510 --> 00:05:38,760 suggest is that there are some 108 00:05:42,890 --> 00:05:41,520 limitations to these classical oh I 109 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:42,900 don't have to look very can look there 110 00:05:49,670 --> 00:05:46,320 hey that's cool right and I can sort of 111 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:49,680 look at you at the same time so there as 112 00:05:54,079 --> 00:05:52,050 I said in the beginning that there you 113 00:05:55,610 --> 00:05:54,089 know Maxwell in order to even develop 114 00:05:59,329 --> 00:05:55,620 these equations Maxwell had to set 115 00:06:01,760 --> 00:05:59,339 certain limitations and these are some 116 00:06:03,409 --> 00:06:01,770 of the quotes limitations that force 117 00:06:06,079 --> 00:06:03,419 fields are considered to be uniform 118 00:06:09,219 --> 00:06:06,089 throughout space when in fact there are 119 00:06:13,070 --> 00:06:09,229 also non-uniform electromagnetic fields 120 00:06:16,579 --> 00:06:13,080 space is considered to be a Euclidean 121 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:16,589 space which is usually modeled as a 122 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:19,289 sphere or a cylinder when in fact there 123 00:06:25,339 --> 00:06:21,770 are all kinds of other spaces that 124 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:25,349 physicists that now physicists consider 125 00:06:28,730 --> 00:06:27,330 but Maxwell did not consider make 126 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:28,740 obviously it makes the mathematics a 127 00:06:34,940 --> 00:06:32,130 little more complicated the oscillations 128 00:06:37,550 --> 00:06:34,950 are assumed to be transverse and I've 129 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:37,560 actually read in some 130 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:39,840 articles that the longitudinal 131 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:41,970 oscillations are not allowed in 132 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:45,090 Maxwell's equations the velocity is 133 00:06:49,870 --> 00:06:47,730 considered to be less than or equal to 134 00:06:54,380 --> 00:06:49,880 the speed of light and in fact there are 135 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:54,390 fields which propagate at superluminal 136 00:06:59,510 --> 00:06:57,050 speeds faster than the speed of light 137 00:07:02,390 --> 00:06:59,520 the Lorenz gauge is something I will 138 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:02,400 talk about in a moment that's kind of 139 00:07:07,730 --> 00:07:04,490 for the role of non physicists it's it 140 00:07:11,930 --> 00:07:07,740 it's limited it's an arbitrary choice of 141 00:07:14,270 --> 00:07:11,940 one kind of gauge the Lorenz gauge when 142 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:14,280 in fact there are many others and then 143 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:16,290 they make all these mathematical 144 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:20,570 assumptions like they set all these 145 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:23,370 variables to zero like the magnetic 146 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:26,610 charge density is set to zero the 147 00:07:32,510 --> 00:07:30,690 divergence of the electric components is 148 00:07:34,670 --> 00:07:32,520 set to zero that means 149 00:07:38,570 --> 00:07:34,680 kind of the divergence means like the 150 00:07:41,260 --> 00:07:38,580 expansion of the field is set to zero 151 00:07:43,100 --> 00:07:41,270 and these are kind of arbitrary 152 00:07:44,870 --> 00:07:43,110 definition you know why would you set 153 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:44,880 that to zero and when the field can 154 00:07:50,270 --> 00:07:48,090 expand but it simplifies the mathematics 155 00:07:52,340 --> 00:07:50,280 so Maxwell had to do some kind of 156 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:52,350 limitations and then there's the whole 157 00:08:00,110 --> 00:07:55,110 thing about the potential fields and the 158 00:08:02,570 --> 00:08:00,120 potential the a and the fie mathematical 159 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:02,580 descriptions that describe the fields 160 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:05,010 the potentials are not considered to be 161 00:08:12,020 --> 00:08:07,530 real they're a mathematical construct 162 00:08:15,140 --> 00:08:12,030 and then much much later Aaron often 163 00:08:17,870 --> 00:08:15,150 Bohm and several other people have 164 00:08:18,710 --> 00:08:17,880 actually demonstrated that potentials in 165 00:08:20,690 --> 00:08:18,720 fact are real 166 00:08:24,530 --> 00:08:20,700 and there are fields associated with 167 00:08:25,940 --> 00:08:24,540 them according to Maxwell Dickens 168 00:08:28,310 --> 00:08:25,950 potentials are considered to be 169 00:08:30,410 --> 00:08:28,320 instantaneous and they're described in 170 00:08:32,300 --> 00:08:30,420 terms of an arbitrary gauge function 171 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:32,310 okay so these are what I would call the 172 00:08:40,820 --> 00:08:34,890 limitations of Maxwell's equations and 173 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:40,830 then as a result of that oh okay okay 174 00:08:45,070 --> 00:08:42,810 the limitation so let's look in the 175 00:08:49,100 --> 00:08:45,080 mathematics a little bit more detail 176 00:08:49,810 --> 00:08:49,110 because the gauge I was talking about 177 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:49,820 the gay 178 00:08:57,790 --> 00:08:53,570 theory before so gage theory is is a is 179 00:09:00,940 --> 00:08:57,800 a is a theory based on a certain kind of 180 00:09:04,060 --> 00:09:00,950 group theory mathematics that I've 181 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:04,070 talked about which is abelian in nature 182 00:09:10,210 --> 00:09:07,570 it's a kind of vector algebra it 183 00:09:12,550 --> 00:09:10,220 associated with each mathematical group 184 00:09:16,570 --> 00:09:12,560 is a field which is called a gauge field 185 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:16,580 and the gauge kind of refers to the 186 00:09:22,260 --> 00:09:20,330 degrees of freedom that are given when a 187 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:22,270 field is transformed into another 188 00:09:28,750 --> 00:09:25,970 dimension and it's considered a bad 189 00:09:31,150 --> 00:09:28,760 thing if the field shouldn't change its 190 00:09:34,210 --> 00:09:31,160 properties when it's transformed in 191 00:09:36,310 --> 00:09:34,220 looked at in another set of coordinates 192 00:09:38,470 --> 00:09:36,320 so they always try to limit the number 193 00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:38,480 of degrees of freedom by a process 194 00:09:44,110 --> 00:09:41,360 called gauge fixing and gauge fixing 195 00:09:49,450 --> 00:09:44,120 therefore imposes certain limitations on 196 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:49,460 the fields and that's again another kind 197 00:09:53,740 --> 00:09:52,130 of way in which the fields are limited 198 00:10:00,250 --> 00:09:53,750 in their properties and in their 199 00:10:02,380 --> 00:10:00,260 behavior gauge theory is again based on 200 00:10:05,230 --> 00:10:02,390 group theory and the groups are 201 00:10:08,290 --> 00:10:05,240 characterized primarily in terms of 202 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:08,300 their topology and their symmetry and 203 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:09,770 this is kind of all going to be 204 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:11,930 important in a minute so hang with me on 205 00:10:18,940 --> 00:10:14,570 the physics part for a moment so the 206 00:10:22,690 --> 00:10:18,950 topology which which refers to like the 207 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:22,700 shape of the space like I was talking 208 00:10:28,450 --> 00:10:26,050 about before is usually a sphere or 209 00:10:33,940 --> 00:10:28,460 technically it's called a manifold or a 210 00:10:36,910 --> 00:10:33,950 matrix which defines the field so you 211 00:10:39,250 --> 00:10:36,920 know typically they they consider the 212 00:10:42,970 --> 00:10:39,260 field is fundamental but the but the 213 00:10:44,830 --> 00:10:42,980 topology is secondary but in fact some 214 00:10:46,780 --> 00:10:44,840 modern physicists think it's the other 215 00:10:49,590 --> 00:10:46,790 way around that the topology or the 216 00:10:51,820 --> 00:10:49,600 shape of the field determines the 217 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:51,830 characteristics and properties of the 218 00:10:54,850 --> 00:10:52,310 field 219 00:10:57,490 --> 00:10:54,860 but the top pilot in any case the 220 00:11:01,180 --> 00:10:57,500 topology imposes a boundary which is a 221 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:01,190 kind of limitation on the field but it 222 00:11:05,500 --> 00:11:02,730 is a way of characterizing 223 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:05,510 field particularly engage theory and 224 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:09,290 even more important is the symmetry and 225 00:11:15,319 --> 00:11:12,930 typically the kind of local symmetry 226 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:15,329 that was used by Maxwell and in 227 00:11:20,769 --> 00:11:17,310 Maxwell's equations is call is called 228 00:11:26,050 --> 00:11:20,779 the U one group symmetry which is a 229 00:11:28,250 --> 00:11:26,060 mathematical definition of unitary local 230 00:11:31,009 --> 00:11:28,260 symmetry okay 231 00:11:33,379 --> 00:11:31,019 now that comes important in a moment so 232 00:11:37,610 --> 00:11:33,389 it turns out as I said earlier that the 233 00:11:41,660 --> 00:11:37,620 Loretto the gauge that Maxwell chose was 234 00:11:44,420 --> 00:11:41,670 called the Lorenz or Coulomb gauge and 235 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:44,430 there are alternatives to this kind of 236 00:11:52,759 --> 00:11:49,490 gauge that are that in use non abelian 237 00:11:56,540 --> 00:11:52,769 algebra that have a different kind of 238 00:11:59,990 --> 00:11:56,550 symmetry and in fact with these other 239 00:12:03,139 --> 00:12:00,000 gauges you can have engaged I mean sorry 240 00:12:06,009 --> 00:12:03,149 symmetry breaking which is which is not 241 00:12:08,689 --> 00:12:06,019 allowed in the classic theory 242 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:08,699 longitudinal oscillations are allowed so 243 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:11,610 it kind of opens up the limitations that 244 00:12:15,949 --> 00:12:13,769 Maxwell has imposed on the definition of 245 00:12:19,449 --> 00:12:15,959 electromagnetic field and these are the 246 00:12:23,420 --> 00:12:19,459 kind of names of the different kinds of 247 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:23,430 gauges that are alternative to Lorentz 248 00:12:28,970 --> 00:12:26,250 gauge there's also alternative 249 00:12:30,980 --> 00:12:28,980 symmetries involved math and 250 00:12:32,930 --> 00:12:30,990 mathematicians you know love doing this 251 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:32,940 kind of stuff in it well we don't have 252 00:12:39,189 --> 00:12:35,370 to stick to the U 1 gauge we have all 253 00:12:42,250 --> 00:12:39,199 kinds of gauges and all kinds of 254 00:12:45,199 --> 00:12:42,260 manifolds that can be used to actually 255 00:12:48,009 --> 00:12:45,209 define the nature and the properties of 256 00:12:54,650 --> 00:12:48,019 the field I'm saying all this because 257 00:12:57,889 --> 00:12:54,660 the these topologies or symmetries are 258 00:13:02,150 --> 00:12:57,899 defined here they are wrong button well 259 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:02,160 well let's go back to this the SU gauges 260 00:13:10,759 --> 00:13:07,529 and s o gauges and SL gauges are defined 261 00:13:14,769 --> 00:13:10,769 as higher order symmetries that generate 262 00:13:16,790 --> 00:13:14,779 higher order fields than the classic u 1 263 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:16,800 symmetry 264 00:13:22,220 --> 00:13:20,160 electromagnetic field they have been 265 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:22,230 called supersymmetry and they're 266 00:13:26,630 --> 00:13:24,690 associated with you know chiral but 267 00:13:29,660 --> 00:13:26,640 anyway it's the mathematics gets pretty 268 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:29,670 complicated but just to visually show 269 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:33,290 you some of the alternatives to a sphere 270 00:13:37,940 --> 00:13:35,850 needless to say they get a lot more 271 00:13:40,759 --> 00:13:37,950 complicated and the mathematics gets a 272 00:13:43,250 --> 00:13:40,769 lot more complicated oh dear okay so 273 00:13:46,610 --> 00:13:43,260 when you solve these Maxwell's equations 274 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:46,620 you get different kinds of solutions you 275 00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:50,730 get new that I don't really have time to 276 00:13:57,050 --> 00:13:54,720 go into but they allow and and they 277 00:13:59,120 --> 00:13:57,060 generate different kinds of waves these 278 00:14:01,940 --> 00:13:59,130 waves have been called all kinds of 279 00:14:05,990 --> 00:14:01,950 things and longitudinal waves and scalar 280 00:14:07,579 --> 00:14:06,000 waves waves where the electric vector 281 00:14:09,590 --> 00:14:07,589 and the magnetic vector are not 282 00:14:12,699 --> 00:14:09,600 perpendicular but they're parallel and 283 00:14:17,090 --> 00:14:12,709 vortex fields here's a picture of a 284 00:14:18,139 --> 00:14:17,100 Beltrami field anyway the point and and 285 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:18,149 they have all kinds of different 286 00:14:23,510 --> 00:14:21,570 properties where these fields are not 287 00:14:25,850 --> 00:14:23,520 classical the properties are not 288 00:14:28,699 --> 00:14:25,860 classical so what we're talking about 289 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:28,709 here is different different experimental 290 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:31,170 methods of actually generating these 291 00:14:41,150 --> 00:14:34,110 fields you can generate these fields by 292 00:14:43,970 --> 00:14:41,160 different kinds of electronic coils and 293 00:14:46,130 --> 00:14:43,980 here's the toroid which is the classic 294 00:14:47,540 --> 00:14:46,140 example because the electric classical 295 00:14:52,579 --> 00:14:47,550 electromagnetic fields are trapped 296 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:52,589 inside but potential fields are known to 297 00:14:57,170 --> 00:14:54,810 exist on the outside and theoretically 298 00:14:58,730 --> 00:14:57,180 this has been known for a long time but 299 00:15:02,060 --> 00:14:58,740 it turns out there are lots of different 300 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:02,070 kinds of geometries and different kinds 301 00:15:07,550 --> 00:15:05,850 of coils that have been used even in the 302 00:15:11,510 --> 00:15:07,560 electronics industry for various 303 00:15:14,689 --> 00:15:11,520 applications but most of this has been 304 00:15:18,019 --> 00:15:14,699 rather theoretical and this particular 305 00:15:20,329 --> 00:15:18,029 paper was a is a theoretical paper 306 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:20,339 describing the nature of the fields that 307 00:15:28,530 --> 00:15:23,250 are generated from a toroid for example 308 00:15:33,150 --> 00:15:28,540 and in this particular case the the 309 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:33,160 the fields are are mapped in terms of 310 00:15:37,860 --> 00:15:35,920 the eighth to a fields which interact 311 00:15:40,050 --> 00:15:37,870 with each other which makes us a little 312 00:15:42,450 --> 00:15:40,060 more complicated and here's the the 313 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:42,460 shapes of the fields and this particular 314 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:45,970 paper describes the nature of these 315 00:15:53,310 --> 00:15:49,450 fields as not being you one symmetry but 316 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:53,320 being you to gauge symmetry and the 317 00:15:57,570 --> 00:15:55,690 properties of these fields are that they 318 00:16:00,420 --> 00:15:57,580 are complex they're called self-dual 319 00:16:02,430 --> 00:16:00,430 they have some unusual properties they 320 00:16:04,740 --> 00:16:02,440 don't involve photons they involve 321 00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:04,750 instant tongs and you know this is the 322 00:16:11,660 --> 00:16:08,230 physic the theoretical physics recently 323 00:16:14,220 --> 00:16:11,670 as in last year some experimental 324 00:16:16,530 --> 00:16:14,230 studies were finally done and published 325 00:16:19,290 --> 00:16:16,540 in the physics journal using these kind 326 00:16:22,890 --> 00:16:19,300 of fields where they actually measured 327 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:22,900 the magnetic component of the fields on 328 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:26,290 the outside you cannot measure su 2 329 00:16:32,790 --> 00:16:29,610 symmetry fields using ordinary 330 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:32,800 electromagnetic detectors so all they 331 00:16:38,850 --> 00:16:35,650 could do is measure the U 1 field that 332 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:38,860 is the ordinary field that is emitted by 333 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:42,130 these kind of coils and they conclude 334 00:16:50,030 --> 00:16:45,010 that the magnetic field patterns first 335 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:50,040 of all they don't fall off like ordinary 336 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:52,810 electromagnetic fields as in 337 00:16:57,830 --> 00:16:54,910 proportional to one over R squared 338 00:17:02,130 --> 00:16:57,840 their pattern of distribution is 339 00:17:07,260 --> 00:17:02,140 inconsistent with u 1 fields and they 340 00:17:12,140 --> 00:17:07,270 they have unusual behavior even in this 341 00:17:14,730 --> 00:17:12,150 case where you're only measuring the u 1 342 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:14,740 classical component so there's something 343 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:16,329 strange going on when you generate 344 00:17:23,730 --> 00:17:20,530 fields I don't have time for this what 345 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:23,740 we're using a toroid or a caduceus coil 346 00:17:28,950 --> 00:17:25,810 kind of configuration so the experiment 347 00:17:30,990 --> 00:17:28,960 that i did was using yet and yet another 348 00:17:35,340 --> 00:17:31,000 kind of configuration where the current 349 00:17:37,500 --> 00:17:35,350 in this kind of a coil a flat coil it 350 00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:37,510 comes in at one end as you can see in 351 00:17:42,010 --> 00:17:40,360 the far right corner it turns around and 352 00:17:44,530 --> 00:17:42,020 it goes back out and the other dress 353 00:17:48,610 --> 00:17:44,540 so that the current is opposing the 354 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:48,620 current cancels the magnetic force field 355 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:51,770 the vectors cancel and you generate some 356 00:17:58,090 --> 00:17:55,850 kind of a potential field like described 357 00:18:01,090 --> 00:17:58,100 in the two papers I just described so 358 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:01,100 you have some kind of an su two field 359 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:05,450 non classical field generated the 360 00:18:14,110 --> 00:18:09,890 experiment involved a complex square 361 00:18:17,380 --> 00:18:14,120 wave that was put into the coil in the 362 00:18:20,050 --> 00:18:17,390 form of a modulated square wave or 363 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:20,060 writing on top of a sine wave and then 364 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:22,160 we actually measured there there was a 365 00:18:27,630 --> 00:18:24,530 residual magnetic field component that 366 00:18:30,540 --> 00:18:27,640 you could measure a u1 component but 367 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:30,550 what the actual experiment was is it a 368 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:34,010 biological experiment where I used human 369 00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:38,090 lymphocytes which are immune cells T 370 00:18:44,020 --> 00:18:41,360 lymphocytes it's kind of a standard si 371 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:44,030 they're grown in tissue culture and then 372 00:18:49,660 --> 00:18:47,090 you well so now I'm sorry they're 373 00:18:51,820 --> 00:18:49,670 isolated from human blood you isolate 374 00:18:53,980 --> 00:18:51,830 the T lymphocytes from the other blood 375 00:18:56,350 --> 00:18:53,990 cells and then you put them in a tissue 376 00:18:59,140 --> 00:18:56,360 culture dish you treat them with 377 00:19:01,840 --> 00:18:59,150 radioactive thymidine which which it 378 00:19:03,970 --> 00:19:01,850 gets incorporated into the DNA it's a 379 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:03,980 standard method for measuring cell 380 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:07,970 growth you actually measure the 381 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:10,490 radioactivity incorporated into the 382 00:19:17,020 --> 00:19:12,970 nucleus and then you calculate the 383 00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:17,030 radioactive counts by the total amount 384 00:19:24,550 --> 00:19:21,110 of protein and then what you get is this 385 00:19:27,250 --> 00:19:24,560 so in the control situation there is a 386 00:19:29,410 --> 00:19:27,260 very small amount of growth but in the 387 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:29,420 presence of the non classical 388 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:31,370 electromagnetic field generated from 389 00:19:37,300 --> 00:19:34,370 this kind of self canceling non 390 00:19:41,620 --> 00:19:37,310 inductive coil you get a relatively 391 00:19:45,070 --> 00:19:41,630 large stimulation in growth when you use 392 00:19:46,510 --> 00:19:45,080 a standard chemical mitogen call it I'll 393 00:19:49,450 --> 00:19:46,520 be finished in a second yeah I call 394 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:49,460 interleukin 2 you get a similar kind of 395 00:19:54,790 --> 00:19:51,890 growth and then when you combine the two 396 00:19:56,890 --> 00:19:54,800 which is the there is no enhancement 397 00:20:00,340 --> 00:19:56,900 is the same effect that dr. Gupta got 398 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:00,350 when combining energy and chemicals so 399 00:20:09,730 --> 00:20:05,330 in conclusion the the fields that are 400 00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:09,740 generated the non-classical gauge fields 401 00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:12,320 of su 2 symmetry generated by this kind 402 00:20:17,740 --> 00:20:15,440 of a coil does in fact stimulate human 403 00:20:20,860 --> 00:20:17,750 lymphocytes the magnitude of the effect 404 00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:20,870 is is very large it's in the order of 20 405 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:24,200 fold in fact there are more than one 406 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:26,570 signal and some signals work much better 407 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:28,810 than other signal to was less effective 408 00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:31,490 there was there was no additive 'ti 409 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:32,840 between the chemical and an 410 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:34,370 electromagnetic field which suggests 411 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:36,890 that they work via the same mechanism of 412 00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:42,710 action and the the large stimulation is 413 00:20:47,530 --> 00:20:44,960 anomalous because in the literature 414 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:47,540 elect standard classical electromagnetic 415 00:20:53,020 --> 00:20:50,330 field do are known to stimulate 416 00:20:55,540 --> 00:20:53,030 lymphocytes but not on the order of 20 417 00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:55,550 fold that typically it's on the order of 418 00:21:03,310 --> 00:20:58,880 50 80 percent so that's where the 419 00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:03,320 anomaly is and that's my conclusions and 420 00:21:12,370 --> 00:21:08,240 thank you very much that there's my 421 00:21:24,180 --> 00:21:12,380 information did it okay that 20 minutes 422 00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:24,190 is yes my name is John Reid Glen your 423 00:21:30,370 --> 00:21:28,760 research is very fascinating because it 424 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:30,380 appears that this has great 425 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:32,690 applicability for enhancing the immune 426 00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:34,490 system and and that's one of the 427 00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:37,520 directions I think that medicine is 428 00:21:43,420 --> 00:21:39,110 going the 21st century like we were 429 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:43,430 discussing last night and have you did 430 00:21:49,390 --> 00:21:46,370 you'd were the were they specific 431 00:21:51,340 --> 00:21:49,400 t-cells with 84 or t8 or what what 432 00:21:53,620 --> 00:21:51,350 t-cells were they because this has 433 00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:53,630 potentially great applicability to 434 00:21:59,380 --> 00:21:56,960 perhaps treatment of aid since right you 435 00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:59,390 know it's the decline in the T 436 00:22:02,010 --> 00:22:01,520 lymphocytes that exactly results in the 437 00:22:04,350 --> 00:22:02,020 right 438 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:04,360 problem and and the panel we were 439 00:22:09,060 --> 00:22:07,090 talking about helper cells and 440 00:22:12,110 --> 00:22:09,070 suppressor cells which are the two types 441 00:22:15,810 --> 00:22:12,120 of T lymphocytes in this particular 442 00:22:17,490 --> 00:22:15,820 preparation I did not separate the 443 00:22:21,150 --> 00:22:17,500 helper and the suppressor cells so this 444 00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:21,160 was a combined preparation that contain 445 00:22:26,490 --> 00:22:23,820 both helper cells and suppressor cells 446 00:22:29,340 --> 00:22:26,500 but both of those are called T 447 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:29,350 lymphocytes so I did not separate the 448 00:22:35,580 --> 00:22:31,330 two different types of lymphocytes that 449 00:22:38,910 --> 00:22:35,590 would be great for future research hi my 450 00:22:45,170 --> 00:22:38,920 name is Shawn Lakshman and I have a 451 00:22:48,510 --> 00:22:45,180 question on the the Maxwell's equation 452 00:22:51,660 --> 00:22:48,520 so you were talking about the scalar 453 00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:51,670 potential basically for the magnetic 454 00:23:00,650 --> 00:22:57,120 field there is no charge and therefore 455 00:23:02,910 --> 00:23:00,660 Maxwell included the scalar potential 456 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:02,920 equivalent to that of a charge so you 457 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:06,130 put an artificial kind of a potential 458 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:08,440 that appear so how do you correlate that 459 00:23:17,850 --> 00:23:14,080 with these you know your su-22 fit into 460 00:23:20,130 --> 00:23:17,860 that equation so you're telling it is if 461 00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:20,140 it is a non classical you should 462 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:23,520 generate by itself you need not have to 463 00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:28,630 introduce a electric unit to cancel 464 00:23:33,300 --> 00:23:30,550 itself and do any other thing so it 465 00:23:35,910 --> 00:23:33,310 should you know it without any 466 00:23:40,290 --> 00:23:35,920 electrical information interference you 467 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:40,300 should have a output yeah well in the 468 00:23:47,940 --> 00:23:43,630 previous study by Barrett and the 469 00:23:51,870 --> 00:23:47,950 follow-up study by Froning they compared 470 00:23:53,610 --> 00:23:51,880 a the cancel mode and the non cancel 471 00:23:56,790 --> 00:23:53,620 mode where the currents running parallel 472 00:23:58,650 --> 00:23:56,800 versus anti parallel and I didn't have 473 00:24:01,320 --> 00:23:58,660 time to go into that in much detail and 474 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:01,330 I'm sorry for URI didn't get a chance to 475 00:24:08,670 --> 00:24:04,210 add probably a very good question but 476 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:08,680 we'll talk later URIs and you're right 477 00:24:14,430 --> 00:24:11,770 in in both the cancel and the non cancel 478 00:24:17,909 --> 00:24:14,440 modes you do generate the su 479 00:24:20,430 --> 00:24:17,919 to non-classical forms of the field but 480 00:24:23,789 --> 00:24:20,440 the point that they made there is that 481 00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:23,799 the the behavior of the fields that are 482 00:24:29,549 --> 00:24:27,039 generated outside of the toroid or or a 483 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:29,559 caduceus coil or whatever is different 484 00:24:34,350 --> 00:24:31,690 in the cancel mode in the non cancel 485 00:24:36,539 --> 00:24:34,360 mode so the conclusion was that you 486 00:24:39,779 --> 00:24:36,549 generate su two fields in both 487 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:39,789 situations not be necessarily because of 488 00:24:45,180 --> 00:24:42,730 the cancellation but because in the case 489 00:24:47,009 --> 00:24:45,190 of a toroid the fields are trapped the 490 00:24:50,580 --> 00:24:47,019 classical fields are trapped in the 491 00:24:52,619 --> 00:24:50,590 center the u 1 symmetry fields are 492 00:24:56,999 --> 00:24:52,629 trapped in the center of the toroid but 493 00:24:59,220 --> 00:24:57,009 the su 2 fields are lib are free to be 494 00:25:02,549 --> 00:24:59,230 generated on the outside of the toroid 495 00:25:03,690 --> 00:25:02,559 but I didn't use a trapping kind of 496 00:25:10,830 --> 00:25:03,700 geometry 497 00:25:14,129 --> 00:25:10,840 to generate the su 2 fields so it's a 498 00:25:15,389 --> 00:25:14,139 little complex but conceptually that I